when you see facts like this past week when chevron dumped $2.5 million from its corporate treasuries into super pac, then americans wonder whether elections is for sale, whether government is for sale rather than their votes. >> these numbers for me were just stunning. opensecrets.org say given almost -- we just passed the $2 billion that president barack obama is the candidate who has drawn the most shadow money, this kind of quiet money. supporters, shadow money supporters, $1.1 million. shadow money opposition to the president $74.1 million. and it's shadow money. >> with the amount of money in elections has always been troubling, but the massive amount of spending from corporate and special interest groups, this shadow money in this election is completely demoralizing to me. to bring this issue home, i think about my neighborhood in new haven -- >> we're having a mic problem. we're going to come back with you. i want these insights, but i want my audience to be able to hear it. >> ben, you're a businessman and have a social vision for the world. but this now is a critical issue f